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DonaldJTrump
is this a Joke?
AsusDelta
Where their data is good, it’s a good step up from live weather from asobo, much more accurate and even looks a lot better.
However if your main flying area, lacks the data points on their side then live weather is just better by some margin, so for the price not having the whole globe covered to a good enough level isn’t acceptable as one could be rolling the dice to if it’ll be any good in their main area of flying.
For instance I mainly fly in New Zealand and in the North Island it’s better than live weather by a fair bit but go fly in the South Island and it suddenly live weather was much more accurate.
so TLDR if you mostly fly in the major centres in the US or Europe I’d confidently say you get a much better weather experience more times than not but if you mostly fly in smaller countries like NZ, you are rolling the dice which for the price shouldn’t be a thing.
One last thing the transitions/loading of weather isn’t as good as the live weather, and can be very noticeable, from my gathering worse for some users than other.
Cazzie
How does it compare with REX Weather Force? Huge difference in the price of the two. I have read places where people are having problems with this program. For $42.00 Yankee, it should do the job without a hassle. I'd like a critical review of the two weather engines before I purchase either.
Mucka1
yaokai
I don't know why so much bad comment below XE2020. Its only a software which ONLY provide data to the sim but not like REX have 4/5 G cloud file in P3D. So why XE2020 will hit fps.
The default weather in MSFS have some problem. Like the weather is outdated or it update suddenly in sim may cause fenix AP off. maybe its my network problem because I'm in China. But XE2020 solve the problem to me. and its a good plugin to me.
And the other people think the price is to high. I think plz make money harder : )
mmeares 4 day(s) ago
Ive heard about that AP disconnect on weather updates and etc but for some reason Ive never had that prob Ive seen it update many times during flight and not enough to throw me off course or disconnect AP.
mikecbr
The best engine for the wx in MSFS even way better than msfs default.... It needs to improve, But magnus said they will create their own atmosphere 😊 5 STARS from me
N269EH
I like this but I am now getting THIS dialog box when I load up: https://gyazo.com/6456179f7b5bbbe3c38e8a1779285ae9
Threshold - Dark Space 8 day(s) ago
Sorry, but this is unrelated to xEnviro. The bandwidth usage has nothing to do with the injection of the weather and is very low. If you want, you can contact support, but this is not xE related.
N269EH 8 day(s) ago
Alright. Just an interesting coincidence.
Threshold - Dark Space 8 day(s) ago
Just too bad your 2.5 starts still stand and give us a bad rep. Or are there other things that you do not like with the addon?
Threshold - Dark Space 8 day(s) ago
Thank you for amending the stars. Much appreciated!
tgbushman
I saw Overkils YouTube video for this, so without doing any research, I ended up buying it. Then afterwards, I heard about the comments in the FSElite and other YouTube videos panning it.
I look at it this way. You have to turn off Live Weather in MSFS for XEnviro to take over. If I disagree with how the weather looks in XEnviro, I can turn on Live Weather, and get what MSFS gives me. I have the ability to go back in history (not too far back though, only since Octover 2022). But for example, I can go to any of the tornados that happened earlier this year, or I can go to the 2 feet of snow Buffalo got on Christmas Eve and day. Or I can go to any of the rain storms California had that caused the flooding.
Yes, it is $42. But I can toggle the default weather and XEnviro to see which looks more realistic. I can go back in time for certain weather events. It gives me flexibility. I admit once I saw all the negative feedback, I got concerned about my purchase. But, it has given me a choice. I can have MSFS live weather, or I can have XEnviro live weather. If MSFS live weather is down, which happens sometimes, boom, I can with a flick of a setting have XEnviro live weather. I spent $40 for Just Flights FSTraffic, and only use the airplane models with FSTL. I don't regret this purchase with the flexibility it offers me.
tgbushman 8 day(s) ago
Actually, an update. XEnviro renders the weather that MSFS gets from live weather. So if MSFS live weather service is down, it will be down for XEnviro too. This can't be used as a backup for the live weather in MSFS.
Threshold - Dark Space 8 day(s) ago
This is not correct. We use our own weather engine which is completely separate from MSFS Live weather. Please check if your weather briefing in xE is populating and what it is supposed to depict. If this deviates from what you see in your sim, please contact support.
tgbushman 8 day(s) ago
When I am saying Live Weather, I mean the Microsoft Live Weather Service that is in Azure. MSFS calls that, and then renders the weather based on the METAR. XEnviro renders the weather based on that exact same METAR. If Microsoft Live Weather Service is down and not delivering METARs, then it effect both the base sim live weather rendering and XEviro's weather rendering. At least that is what I was told. I was told that XEnviro does not inject its own live weather, it simply renders it different than the sim would.
Threshold - Dark Space 8 day(s) ago
I am not sure where you heard this, but it is, as I said, not correct. We don't use that same source. We have our own weather engine, which has been in development since 2002 and has been used in xEnviro for X-Plane for over ten years. We use five different sources for our calculations which are entirely independent of the MSFS weather engine.
El_Lorax 1 day(s) ago
Loved your comment I just spent $40 on FSTraffic for the models in fsltl!!!! MEEE TOOO!!!!!
wolly1380
Xp11 Xp12 $42but since the default MSFS weather engine is much better than xplane are we just blowing $42 just for a slight improvment or even a dis-advantage with 60 minuteweather I'd say so
Threshold - Dark Space 8 day(s) ago
We don't use X-Plane's weather engine. And we don't replace the clouds in MSFS other than scaling. And I am not sure what you mean with 60 minute weather. Our intervals go in increments from 5 to 60 minutes, your choice.
eupedroernesto
This guy thinks he’s in X-Plane charging an abusive price and nobody complains.
WilbikFS
I've seen it all before with apps that don't provide demos. If you buy it at such an extortionate price and it doesn't work on your PC then there is no come back it seems. This buy it or lump it mentality does the product no credit!
Skymatix
xEnviro is a great add-on. I loved using it in XP11 and am very glad that it is now available in XP12, It's a game changer and having it in 2020 as well, is the cherry on the cake. Now we have proper weather in both sim platforms!!!
alucard8679
is this addon only effect at city area or reality area? because in reality, maybe all province is fog, but in MFS2020 default weather, only fog above each city , if u leaving the city , the weather will be clear . its not good.
Threshold - Dark Space 10 day(s) ago
MSFS default weather does apply fog everywhere on a global scale, and its accuracy is decent. We do the same but with a much more advanced engine. And if you are talking about pollution and smog, I believe MSFS doesn't consider that. At least it didn't before. We do, where ever air quality is reported.
sly666
um 35 euro würd ich das pogramm auch kaufen und andere leute sicher auch aber 48 euro ne sorry geht gar nicht es gibt nicht mal eine demo ich kauf sicher nicht die katze im sack mfg
Threshold - Dark Space 10 day(s) ago
Ein demo würde den addon sofort cracken. Leider. Wäre es möglich ein demo zu machen ohne das es gepiratet wirt, dann hätten wir das sofort gemacht. Ich habe verständniss dafür das viele den Preis hoch finden, aber unsere kosten sind auch hoch. Wir finden aber das wir den Wert liefern. Auf jeden fall wenn alle updates gratis sind. 😊
panamericana85 4 day(s) ago
ja kennen wir ja aus der Geschichte des entwicklers,,,,,mit "der katze im sack" gekauft
ekljrfhou
does this mod allow the wing to disappear into the clouds like this https://youtu.be/XHZMGvqkNr4?t=236
Threshold - Dark Space 10 day(s) ago
Not yet. We do not alter the MSFS clouds other than scaling and drawing them with our weather engine. And this effect is much more challenging to achieve than you would think. This is probably why Asobo has not done it yet. However, we have it on the XP11 version of xEnviro, where we replace the whole atmosphere. We plan to do the same in MSFS, which is further down the line.
erasariel
My comment simply attaching a video of an analysis of this addon was deleted. I did not bad mouth the product, it was simply an informative comment for any would-be buyers. I only typed something akin to the following:
What rules did that violate, fs.to?
Threshold - Dark Space 11 day(s) ago
Not sure, tbh. But it may be because that video is posted by someone who is not testing the product. He doesn't own the product when posting the video, which is quite misleading.
steveduemila
Sounds so nice!
Some questions:
Does it affect FPS and performances?
It really adds turbulence in clouds?
Is there somewhere a demo video?
Even just for the clouds turbulence it worth the money......i really miss it in MSFS2020..........
Thank you for the answers!
Threshold - Dark Space 11 day(s) ago
We don't have a demo video, but you can watch this one ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ6LSLixxwo&t=10s ), where you can see some turbulence. Since the video was released six months ago, the weather transitions are smooth, and other quirks have been ironed out. =)
It does not affect fps in any way since we don't replace the clouds (yet). We only alter the size to get more realistic spacing between cloud layers.
steveduemila 11 day(s) ago
Video apart, does it add in cloud turbulence or si only a random effect?
Threshold - Dark Space 11 day(s) ago
We add "in cloud turbulence", yes.
steveduemila 11 day(s) ago
Thank you fro your prompt answers! I'll buy it!
VA3DBJ 11 day(s) ago
Other then the one nearest weather glitch for Canadian airports, I have used the app for two days and enjoying every minute. 😊 Renders thunderstorms, a lot better then the default and the REX product. Turbulence and wind shear in the Lake Ontario region is as close I have seen/felt it.
steveduemila 11 day(s) ago
VA3DBJ.....'73 from IW3HM 😊
B767max
He looks really good, I don't have to suffer with the inaccurate default weather and the built-in cotton candy-like clouds, and the very weird smooth clouds
ninosky52
the too high price and the lack of a demo make me unwilling to buy it
Threshold - Dark Space 12 day(s) ago
I can understand that. Sadly, making a demo would expose it to pirates, who would crack it instantly. And since that has not happened, we can't risk it.
podnike 11 day(s) ago
And with this price u think there will be no cracked version? Clever to still quickly rip off the fair impatient customer.
Sorry but there is absoluty no reason for that bs price.
Threshold - Dark Space 10 day(s) ago
XE has not been cracked in over ten years, and it will stay that way. You're entirely in your right to have an opinion on the price, but our running costs are high, and we do believe we deliver something worth the one-time payment with lifetime updates.
ExcessivelySalty 9 day(s) ago
Don't like the price, don't buy it, it's pretty simple.
podnike 9 day(s) ago
No Feedback - no improvement, it´s pretty simple.
ahome81
As MS2020 was my very first sim, I did not have knowledge of your product. I was very excited to see a new weather engine product especially after my bad experience with REX weather engine purchase.
The product description sounds amazing, it is exactly what I have been looking for. However the price is 42 USD and there is no trial version (?)
So I have started to do some research, but then I found these quickly.
You mentioned this on fselite review;
"This is an urgent project that will hopefully mend economic difficulties for the dev team." (https://fselite.net/content/xenviro-2020-released-for-msfs/)
I got to see what people were saying about it under that article, as well as your responses.
There was also a youtube video that confirmed my second thoughts.
(https://youtu.be/cUIJs1Lclus)
Threshold - Dark Space 12 day(s) ago
Rest assured, this product is solid and has the attention you should expect. It will be updated for free for the rest of your lifetime and will get many features along that road. We have an active support team and a development team dedicated to developing this product to stay in front of the competition.
The last video you refer to is not a review of the product. The author did not own the product at the time. The comment section in FSElite is sadly closed off now. I tried to explain my initial lousy wording of the release and did a bad job. I made a huge mistake there, which has affected the whole team, and I regret mentioning anything on the economic side. It was doomed to be misunderstood, especially when I couldn't explain it in detail. And today, I choose not to go into that topic again.
erasariel 11 day(s) ago
Funny, I posted that video here as one of the first comments, writing "before buying this product please watch this analysis" and my comment is nowhere to be found.
What's up with that, fs.to and Threshold?